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		<title>By: Lady Gaga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Gaga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 19:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I like your website, I&#039;m a little mmonster and I think Lady Gaga is the best.</description>
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		<title>By: Submarine Channel &#124; Can Indie Films Survive?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Submarine Channel &#124; Can Indie Films Survive?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in a response to Epstein, Flavorwire compares the indie film with indie music in their article “Why Is Indie Film Dying While Indie Music Thrives?”   By  February 10, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: writer girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>writer girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a writer who is currently working on an indie film,I have to agree. I&#039;m in Canada where it&#039;s especially dire and I currently have to decide if I&#039;m going to spend another year of my life working on a project that will be a huge crap shoot. The crap shoot being, will it even get made? Which is highly unlikely. In the past the odds were maybe 70/30. Thirty being it getting made. Now it&#039;s maybe 5 percent or 10 tops. 

What I worry about is more and more people deciding not to work in the arts because they simply can&#039;t live on it. I don&#039;t know how I&#039;m going to live another year making no money. It&#039;s a real conundrum. Can you imagine a world without art?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a writer who is currently working on an indie film,I have to agree. I&#8217;m in Canada where it&#8217;s especially dire and I currently have to decide if I&#8217;m going to spend another year of my life working on a project that will be a huge crap shoot. The crap shoot being, will it even get made? Which is highly unlikely. In the past the odds were maybe 70/30. Thirty being it getting made. Now it&#8217;s maybe 5 percent or 10 tops. </p>
<p>What I worry about is more and more people deciding not to work in the arts because they simply can&#8217;t live on it. I don&#8217;t know how I&#8217;m going to live another year making no money. It&#8217;s a real conundrum. Can you imagine a world without art?</p>
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		<title>By: MT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why indie labels appear to be thriving is only because majors are dying out.  No rock album ships platnium anymore.  It takes only a fraction of albums to be sold to be at the top of billboard than it did 10 years ago.  A couple bands on XL or the Arcade Fire (when was the last indie band that opened for U2 or Bowie?) are in good shape, but don&#039;t speak for the rest of indie rock.

Lots of indie labels are folding as well over file sharing as the major source of revenue in bands is in concert performances.  Not that I know filmmaking, but I hope this article is more accurate about that side of the arts than music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why indie labels appear to be thriving is only because majors are dying out.  No rock album ships platnium anymore.  It takes only a fraction of albums to be sold to be at the top of billboard than it did 10 years ago.  A couple bands on XL or the Arcade Fire (when was the last indie band that opened for U2 or Bowie?) are in good shape, but don&#8217;t speak for the rest of indie rock.</p>
<p>Lots of indie labels are folding as well over file sharing as the major source of revenue in bands is in concert performances.  Not that I know filmmaking, but I hope this article is more accurate about that side of the arts than music.</p>
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		<title>By: Razor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 17:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That&#039;s extremely depressing. I understand both sides, because I myself quite love indie music and discovering new bands, but I also love indie films and showing them around to my friends.

Unfortunately, it&#039;s true. While most of the time, I don&#039;t necessarily go to theaters to show my friends movies, it still takes a while and the question of if they actually do watch it or just ignore it. Music is easier to send around, thanks to other sites like YouTube or Playlist.com.

Although, I do have to agree with Mr.Moe. Coolness isn&#039;t exactly a factor in this debate. It&#039;s too much of a gray area to really effect either way. One person might believe that indie music is cooler than film, but it&#039;s easily debated the other way by someone who thinks just the opposite. So, &quot;coolness&quot; is not a factor at all when it comes to why indie films are becoming less and less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That&#8217;s extremely depressing. I understand both sides, because I myself quite love indie music and discovering new bands, but I also love indie films and showing them around to my friends.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it&#8217;s true. While most of the time, I don&#8217;t necessarily go to theaters to show my friends movies, it still takes a while and the question of if they actually do watch it or just ignore it. Music is easier to send around, thanks to other sites like YouTube or Playlist.com.</p>
<p>Although, I do have to agree with Mr.Moe. Coolness isn&#8217;t exactly a factor in this debate. It&#8217;s too much of a gray area to really effect either way. One person might believe that indie music is cooler than film, but it&#8217;s easily debated the other way by someone who thinks just the opposite. So, &#8220;coolness&#8221; is not a factor at all when it comes to why indie films are becoming less and less.</p>
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		<title>By: Indie? Studio? Screw It. Entertain. &#124; Multi-Hyphenate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indie? Studio? Screw It. Entertain. &#124; Multi-Hyphenate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Berman&#8217;s article from Flavorwire, &#8220;Why is Indie Film Dying While Indie Music Thrives?&#8221; has, to say the least, stirred some argument, such as Filmmaker Magazine&#8216;s Scott Macaulay in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Berman&#8217;s article from Flavorwire, &#8220;Why is Indie Film Dying While Indie Music Thrives?&#8221; has, to say the least, stirred some argument, such as Filmmaker Magazine&#8216;s Scott Macaulay in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MrMoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrMoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is apples and oranges. But IMHO;

(1) Film makers need 2 hrs to win audiences over, Indie Bands need 3mins to make a fan. (2) Film making is a collaborating effort, takes time and can be expensive, Musicians can write s song by themselves in 15 mins and record for nothing. (3) One is projected, the other is Live (and is how most indie bands make their money)

Last, &quot;Coolness&quot; is Subjective and shouldn&#039;t be part of this debate. What you think is cool, is corney to someone else. Besides how many bad songs get stuck in your head and become big hits.

My2cents</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is apples and oranges. But IMHO;</p>
<p>(1) Film makers need 2 hrs to win audiences over, Indie Bands need 3mins to make a fan. (2) Film making is a collaborating effort, takes time and can be expensive, Musicians can write s song by themselves in 15 mins and record for nothing. (3) One is projected, the other is Live (and is how most indie bands make their money)</p>
<p>Last, &#8220;Coolness&#8221; is Subjective and shouldn&#8217;t be part of this debate. What you think is cool, is corney to someone else. Besides how many bad songs get stuck in your head and become big hits.</p>
<p>My2cents</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Lokken &#187; &#8220;Indie? Studio? Screw It. Entertain&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria Lokken &#187; &#8220;Indie? Studio? Screw It. Entertain&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 05:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Berman&#8217;s article from Flavorwire, &#8220;Why is Indie Film Dying While Indie Music Thrives?&#8221; has, to say the least, stirred some argument, such as Filmmaker Magazine&#8217;s Scott Macaulay in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Berman&#8217;s article from Flavorwire, &#8220;Why is Indie Film Dying While Indie Music Thrives?&#8221; has, to say the least, stirred some argument, such as Filmmaker Magazine&#8217;s Scott Macaulay in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Holiday At The Sea &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Weekly Town Crier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holiday At The Sea &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Weekly Town Crier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read this piece wondering why indie film is dying while indie music is thriving. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Liney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott Walker&#039;s last album, &quot;the Drift&quot;, is very original.  Takes a few listens, but pays off.

I should point out once again though that &quot;the Drift&quot; is not (in my book) an independent record...it was released by 4AD, whch form part of the Beggars Group.

It seems to me that a lot of people judge whether or not something is independent by the way it sounds.  This is a bit like saying that &quot;Cloverfield&quot; is an independent film because it uses a shaky cam.

There are only four major record labels: Sony, Universal, EMI, and Warner.  But does that make any label other than them an independent?  In a sense they are, but that doesn&#039;t mean that some of them aren&#039;t pretty big, well established, with good contacts and networks.  

For instance, to go back to the example of Animal Collective, they have performed on the David Letterman show.  Now if I make a record tomorrow that is just as good as the Animal Collective one, do you think I&#039;ll be able to ring up the David Letterman show, get them to listen to it, and then perform on the show?  No...you need a bit of industry muscle to make that happen.

Before this article has any meaning, it needs to establish what exactly is being compared between music and film.  If you want to find some genuine independently distributed music, go to cdbaby.com.  The artists on there are all struggling to be heard, make no money...and I doubt you ever will have heard of any of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Walker&#8217;s last album, &#8220;the Drift&#8221;, is very original.  Takes a few listens, but pays off.</p>
<p>I should point out once again though that &#8220;the Drift&#8221; is not (in my book) an independent record&#8230;it was released by 4AD, whch form part of the Beggars Group.</p>
<p>It seems to me that a lot of people judge whether or not something is independent by the way it sounds.  This is a bit like saying that &#8220;Cloverfield&#8221; is an independent film because it uses a shaky cam.</p>
<p>There are only four major record labels: Sony, Universal, EMI, and Warner.  But does that make any label other than them an independent?  In a sense they are, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that some of them aren&#8217;t pretty big, well established, with good contacts and networks.  </p>
<p>For instance, to go back to the example of Animal Collective, they have performed on the David Letterman show.  Now if I make a record tomorrow that is just as good as the Animal Collective one, do you think I&#8217;ll be able to ring up the David Letterman show, get them to listen to it, and then perform on the show?  No&#8230;you need a bit of industry muscle to make that happen.</p>
<p>Before this article has any meaning, it needs to establish what exactly is being compared between music and film.  If you want to find some genuine independently distributed music, go to cdbaby.com.  The artists on there are all struggling to be heard, make no money&#8230;and I doubt you ever will have heard of any of them.</p>
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