[Editor's note: Flavorwire is counting down our most popular features of 2010. This post comes in at position number 2. It was originally published July 1, 2010.] There are great films, there are horrible films, and there are hipster films. These aren’t movies about hipsters — your (500) Days of Summer — or movies calculated to appeal to them (Garden State) that end up finding their true audience in middle America. These are the flicks (often from the ’80s or ’90s) that people of the well-educated, alternative-leaning, cosmopolitan, 20-something demographic actively embrace… and often quote ad nauseam. We’re not saying we don’t enjoy these movies — some of them are our very own sacred cows, and it hurts us deeply to sacrifice them. We’re just saying they’ve become as overplayed as Animal Collective’s “My Girls,” and we’re sick to death of hearing about them.
Hipsters and John Cusack go together like peas and carrots. From Better Off Dead (which, like, don’t mess with, okay?) to High Fidelity to Hot Tub Time Machine, he’s emo narcissism and nostalgic irony all rolled into one. While we enjoyed Say Anything…, the first time around, the fact that it’s inspired two indie bands and a million T-shirts means it’s seriously overplayed. And ladies: I think we know what it means to date a guy who sees Lloyd Dobler as some kind of perma-teen role model. If we see one more dude hoist a boom box over his head…
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Comments (85)
Yeah, for serious hipsters. Get over them, I want them just for me.
This is one of the most reductive takes on film I’ve ever seen. I think people embrace movies like “A Clockwork Orange” and “The Big Lebowski” because they’re expertly made movies, not because of it fulfills some mental checklist of pop songs, cultural references, irony or drug humor. Maybe some people think that way. But this is just lazy sterotyping to fill up your daily blog quota. Read a film book or go see Sex and the City 2.
This is one of the most reductive takes on film I’ve ever seen. I think people embrace movies like “A Clockwork Orange” and “The Big Lebowski” because they’re expertly made movies, not because of it fulfills some mental checklist of pop songs, cultural references, irony or drug humor. Maybe some people think that way. But this is just lazy stereotyping to fill up your daily blog quota. Read a film book or go see Sex and the City 2.
You sure this is a message to hipsters? Seems more like a polemic against all of us angsty GenX children of the 70s / early 80s who keep nostalgiafying for times gone by (particularly the early 90s “alternative” era). With but two exceptions, I think I actually own all of these movies. Ouch!
I’m NEVER getting over “Ferris” OR “Coffee & Cigs”. Have a gooey gummy bear and relax
Basquiat
I enjoy hating hipsters. I also enjoy seeing them get their American Apparel undies in a wad over these posts. [waiting for onslaught of serious hipsters to chime in]
I like the title of this list, but I was hoping it would be more of a decree for hipsters to stop making ironic-nostalgic references to The Goonies and Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo. A couple of these movies are actually good. And a couple of these movies are more popular with bros than hipsters.
How funny is it that the disingenuous and sarcastic way of too-easily compartmentalizing artwork, ideas and “types” of people – a trait so easily blamed on superficial “hipsters” – is exactly the same approach taken by “non-hipster blog writers/magazine editors” to sneer the already vague demographic with ironically “hipster-like” condescension.
I totally agree with The Big Lebowski.
um…ok? at what point is flavorwire any different than twitter or facebook? this is journalism? sounds like a blog from a boring old man or woman. peeviewonder types must get their men’s bikini briefs that come in a tube in a bunch if they knows people are having fun with their lives. give me ferris and max over optimus prime and spiderman any day of the rest of my life.
Bueller? Bueller?
You sure mean ‘boy’ when you say hipster. Really? Miranda July is the only woman you geniuses could dig up. Talk about mainstream take -!
Nicely done. Most of these movies are good despite their hipster romanticism. But I was there, in high school, for Reality Bites, and the movie sucked then. You’ll notice what’s-her-face hasn’t written a word since. And as for “Me and You and Everyone We Know”, it’s self-absorbed poop going back and forth between the screen and your brain. I’ll take self-absorbed if pay off is good enough. This isn’t. Plus, any movie that includes the line, “It’s kinda like life…” loses me in an instant.
you people are hilarious! but i’ll second zee and say that the goonies should be on here. also, on sunday i watched the first breakin’ again. and it was awesome(ly awful).
Movies are for dorks!
The best thing about Coffee & Cigarettes is the Skatellites tune playing during the Iggy Pop/Tom Waits segment!
The only movie I have any problem with listing here is Say Anything. I still love that movie no matter what.
Can we ban Judy Berman from writing any more articles about “hipsters”? This is just terrible. And I hate the use of “we” when her bi-line is on there and I can’t imagine that there aren’t some talented writers at Flavorpill who wouldn’t want to be lumped into this drivel.
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Can we, once and for all, retire the term “hipster”? It’s become like “indie rock band” or “indie film” – a term that has lost all meaning. While that’s not the only reason this article comes off as posturing masquerading as insight (I agree with the commenters who point out most of these movies are actually good movies, and this is just a disguised rant against children of the 80′s), it’s probably the main reason.
Harold and Maude, anyone? Harold and Maude?
Another chapter in the F-wire idolatrous-cum-Oedipal relationship with “hipsters.” (why am I so sure tomorrow it will be back to idolatry?). My god, you people are the Judd Apatows of daily e-calendars.
I love a list purporting to blast things because an imaginary group of people (whom you evidently define yourself by, uh, NOT being) enjoys them, nevermind that I’ve never met what could possibly be called, even by F-wire’s crack contributors as a “hipster,” who would go to bat for garbage like SAY ANYTHING or REALITY BITES. Then, of course, you don’t quite have the balls to even blast the films. Sure, Wes Anderson, the Coens and J. Jarmusch are awesome filmmakers you quip, just why can’t people cooler than “us” stop talking about them? Why not say it? Wes Anderson is GARBAGE. Jim Jamusch is GARBAGE– I don’t care who likes their godawful films.
But then, as noted above, this is a piece with a byline of one person who obviously also lacks the courage even to semi-blast a few easy targets (oh, and let’s throw in a non-sequitur, just to, you know, confuse those meddling “hipsters”… A CLOCKWORK ORANGE is overrated? This one actually makes me curious, although in the same way walking by a Corgi that just got rear-ended by an 18-wheeler makes me curious, what 10 films does Judy Berman think actually transcend what fans of The White Stripes and McSweeny’s think of them?) without using the royal “we.”
This gets deliciously awkward during the section about how “we” were in college when such-and-such came out, saw it twice, but now realize the errors of “our” ways. Yes, you (sorry, y’all) are so much wiser now! There is surely a graph being drawn up this very moment in a dank office at MIT, plotting proportional relations betwixt wisdom and disdain for “hipsters,” or at the very least, disdain for mid-period Linklater films.
Can’t wait for next week’s batch of incendiary FW articles… “10 Typos In Pitchfork From Last Fall,” “Dumb Reactions to 12 Shepard Ferry Xeroxes By People Who Work At Amoeba,” “15 Reasons People Who Collect Comic Art Are Retarded– And Why We Secretly Collect Comic Art Ourselves,” “7 Possible Ways To Divide Who Sits On What Level Of A Doubledecker Bus By Whether Or Not Passengers List A HEARTBREAKING WORK OF STAGGERING GENIUS In Their Nerve.com Profile,” and of course “20 Bands Who Are Better Than The Rapture.”
You’ve really got your finger on the pulse… of something.
This was one of the most asinine things I’ve ever read.
The FW writing pieces that have some sort of hipster reference are the writings that receive more comments. It’s all about knowing your audience.
Good job FW.
Thanks
I think they have missed Clerks, Life of Brian and Quadrophenia ( or maybe that is just for euro-hipsters?)
“Wet Hot American Summer” I watch a LOT of movies and I not only haven’t seen this movie, I’ve never even heard of it. Never once has a friend mentioned it, and recommending/discussing movies is a popular topic in the bars. I just did some reading up on the movie and it appears that it isn’t supposed to be a very good movie at all, maybe that’s why no one has recommended it to me.
Nominee for worst movie trying to be hipster, “Empire Records” – as a record store devotee I had to see the movie, it turned out to be one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. Dreadful.
Hey, Chertonsby, esq & TheKid:
Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
I am not a ‘hipster’ but FBDO is one of my most faves ever!
So Ferris Buellers Principal is a child molestor. He was awfully creepy in that movie.
Pointless. Author needs to get over hipsters
Blah blah blah. You criticize aging counter-culture while your website sells THE SAME COUNTER-CULTURE.
“Hipsters are totally dumb and pretentious lolol. Also, don’t forget to download our super-chique mixtape!”
I’ve always found Flavorpill to be a bit ironic (ha) in of itself, but this is ridiculous.
OK, so I was frustrated. Sorry for the harshness, and I know that the intent of the article was probably just for fun. But in practice, ideas like this make FW look like a self-condemning joke. That’s what I’m trying to say.
“I am cooler than hipsters because I call them hipsters as if it is derogatory. Calling them emo is so 5 years ago. They are dumb because they are all the same but I am cool because I call them hipsters like everyone else. Blah Blah Blah.” Why is bashing hipsters the new hip thing to do? See what I did there?
You describe hipsters as “20-somethings,” but I don’t think most current twentysomethings are obsessed with these films–many probably haven’t seen them. GenX hipsters might certainly be, but they are well into their 30s and 40s now. We were twentysomethings when these films were released, and we need to remember that we aren’t in our 20s anymore.
Dude, you totally missed “Fight Club.”
Does Flavorpill have spell-check or a copy editor? Check out WNYC Radio Lab’s episode titled, “Oops.” This feature exemplifies the Cupertino effect.
I dunno what (or who) some of you consider “counter culture”, but it’s not one of the stereotyped groups mentioned in any of all this (though I agree the piece is pointless drivel about what is largely a very respectable+ list of films that I doubt even aging “Hipsters” quote regularly). HIpsters? Yeah, I agree with the person who suggested we stop using this overused and meaningless label. I should know. I’m a baby boomer. WTF does that really mean? Gen-X, Gen-Y… Why do we allow ourselves to be defined in ways (and promulgate them!) that have no real meaning to anyone but marketers?
The ultimate hipster move: to tell others to “get over” something.
Seriously, how the fuck could you guys leave off “Napoleon Dynamite”?
How could you leave out Labyrinth? Atrocious movie and every woman I know in her late 20s still considers it a favorite, probably out of childhood nostalgia. AWFUL.
This is a supremely lazy blog post. Get smart or get out of out of my daily mail. If you wanted to be provocative wouldn’t you choose something like Holy Mountain or something? I mean that movie has been visually quoted by at least 5 “lazy hipster” music video makers in the last year or two!
death to top tens!
This was a total waste of everyone’s time and panned a few classic films that aren’t “hipster” (whatever the hell that is), just well made movies, with humor or social relevance (read Anthony Burgess’ book & note the date and history of the time). Besides, everyone has there own “touchstone” films in their own lives, like “Casablanca”, “Apocalypse Now (Redux preferred), “A Touch Of Evil”, “Shakes The Clown”, Hal Hartley’s “Trust” (which begat Adrienne Shelly (RIP)& “Waitress”), “Evil Dead II” & “Army Of Darkness”, “Blade Runner”(the recent Director’s cut), “Buckaroo Banzai…”, “Pulp Fiction”, & more recently, “The Dark Knight, “Napolean Dynamite”, “Superbad” & “Juno”, to name a few from a group a coffee drinkers in a dive diner in about 3 minutes time. Quit waisting our time with these faux “Hipper Than Thou” crap entries in your otherwise usually informative, and at times evocative e-zines. These cynical lists are beneath you and us readers and only prove how “un-hip” your writer is.
Also, try checking out some of the restored fims being put out by “The Criterion Collection”, “Kino World Cinema”, and attending some film festivals. All excellent uses of your time.
Re: waking life:
“we should rethink the bourgeois lives we’ve been living.”
A friend of mine watched this all of the time. He was in a frat in college and never heard the word “hipster.” He just liked to get high and watch this movie because the animation was trippy.
Hipster or not, there are always people who “won’t get the irony.” This list misses the mark by a long shot.
This is really the most ridiculous “story” I’ve ever read. Insult your readership by telling them that the good movies that they like are not cool anymore. What? Really? Try writing an article that actually reports something, has a point of view (that isn’t ironic) instead of making a list of things that already exist. “Journalism” is a dirtier word than hipster and I agree with the commenter who asked what is the difference between this column and a facebook update? Take out the self-congratulatory sarcasm and add a hint of substance in additional to using a thesaurus rather than overuse the h word. Everybody hates hipsters, we get it, but WTF do these movies have to do with them? How many people at FW are reading this with their fake oversized specs that they got at American Apparel. I mean, really?
Idiocracy, it really is becoming the next political party. Duh writer chick… (like) it seems (like) a lot of people have been enjoying these flicks since way before “hipsters” were (like) even born… if there is even (like) a credible group that can be defined as (like)”hipsters”. are hipsters just any group the writer doesn’t belong to? plus (OMG) this is a tired topic of discussion. (like) good for the group of “non” hipsters over at f-wire who so want to hate all over whatever they themselves don’t (like) promote… oh wait it seems like this post is actually blatant promotion of each and every one of these movies… complete with trailer. (like) nice work.
Who cares about hipsters anymore? Last decade is over, get with the program. Like CC said, twentysomethings don’t actually watch or quote these movies much. Judy Berman, you’re barking up the wrong tree in the wrong forest: my generation isn’t exactly nostalgic, and why would we be? We grew up in a different cultural framework than Gen-Xers.
The movies aren’t the problem — lots of people like them for lots of reasons. The issue is that hipsters are not good film critics.
I don’t know a lot about hipsters, but I am surprised to find out we have similar taste in movies. Aside from a couple of them that I haven’t seem, these are all really great flicks. Fear and Loathing and Big Lebowski prolly make my all-time top 5.
I think people should just let other people and their likes be.
i love most of these movies… does that make me a hipster? gross.
This should be titled “10 Movies People Who Enjoy Good Movies Should Continue Watching.”
This list of movie you’ve compiled strongly evinces your own sad self-loathing hipsterdom and self-referential angony. It is BORING. No one cares about hipsters except rednecks, mooks and, well… hipsters. Grow up and spare the world your pointless diatribes. Write about something worth caring about.
My friends always call me hipster, mostly because I don’t like metal, progressive music, or action movies. I don’t get it, because I have a very specific idea of what a hipster is: self-absorbed, shallow, tend to take over your favorite haunts and act like dicks to anyone outside their clique. Then I realized-hipster doesn’t mean the same thing now that it did 6 years ago when I started using the word. Now, it seems that hipster categorification is nothing more than a checklist of (overall very popular) things they like: Animal Collective, Big Lebowski, American Apparel, etc. Someone is a hipster because they dress like one, or like some kind of music, etc. Hipster used to be derogatory because it meant you were a shallow, vain, and an idiot. Now it just describes a particular (and dominant) subset of popular culture. Hipster is the new bourgeoise.
Tl;dr. I will gladly let people call me a hipster if it means I can watch The Big Lebowski as much as I want.
Psst, there’s no such thing as hipsters. It’s a term made up by various websites to spark comments and then achieve more page views and maybe eventually garner a low 5-figure book deal for a paperback shelved in the humor section next to books of golf jokes and stuff by Jeff Foxworthy.
There are young people in the world, yes, I’ve seen them. More are made all the time. There are slightly older people with some shared cultural references. And there are indeed artists in this world, musicians, and film makers, etc., I’ve seen evidence, and they tend to settle near each other for various reasons–shared resources, work necessity. All of them, young, old and the like, are cooler than me, and probably you, but they are not one thing.
In all seriousness, I wish you’d stop pieces like this. It’s just so cheap and easy.
Come on Flavorwire, you are killing me with this article,
#1. Say Anything (Say Wha?)
#2. Wet Hot American Summer (Never saw this)
#3. Big Lebowski (Agreed)
#4. Reality Bites (Liked, but I think the last time I quoted something from that one was like 1996.)
#5. Coffee and Cigarettes (Don’t touch a Bill Murray film)
#6. Ferris Bueller (Talk to the jocks about overquoting from this)
#7. Rushmore (see #5)
#8. Fear and Loathing (blah, blah, blah)
#9. Clockwork Orange (I’m almost rendered speechless you Moloko Droogie for making this awful list)
#10. OK you lost me after #9, I have no commentary for #10 & #11)
Do people really quote from these films with the exeption of Ferris and Lebowski??
yeah this list is pointless! No, I will not dive into an artsy fartsy rant cause I know people who love some of these movies and are far from hip, current, or even cultural.
Ummm… I’m not a hipster (and no, I’m not in denial) and I love 8 out 10 of these because they are great influential films. So…I’m glad I’m not a hipster so I can still like them????….
You really could have replaced the word hipster with the word stoner and had the same stupid article. And why is liking good movies an abhorrent action limited only to hipsters?
Ripping on cult movies in the form of an Internet Top 10 list, each separated on its own page to maximize readership clicks.
Hello irony, I’m Sparkus.
This list is bogus without the crapfest known as “Juno”. Most of these are well made flicks, with few exceptions.
well at least there is nothing hip about this blog. got that part right.
lots of people call me a hipster, and i’ve only seen 3 of these movies in my entire life. i’m sorry, but i definitely thing the breakfast club and the goonies should be on this list.
This is one of the very worst in this ever popular list craze that has taken over the internet.
Yeah, well… that’s just like, your opinion, man.
I’ll leave the criticisms about your list choices to the others who know better than I about such things. Instead, let me point out that you listed 11 movies in your “10 movies” article.
11 is not 10.
Some good general points were made about idiocy in idolizing films, but the mistake was giving specific examples…
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Hmm think was written as a note to self. Poor article.
Yeah, except that Middle America is where all of it originally comes from or is marketed for, and why we may never hear the end of it. And we still don’t even know what Middle America is, or America for that matter.
with the exception of Rushmore, which is truly an idiosyncratic work by the only true auteur of the 90s (tarantino? yeah, maybe, if he hasn’t compressed his whole career in Pulp Fiction. PTA? Well, he just hasn’t got there yet), I agree with you — people need to get over these films. Some of them were actually okay (ex: Lebowski), but some are really bad (Clockwork Orange). Anyways, on to new a wiser things.
By the numbers: All the 80′s crap I get, who the hell considers that serious cinema anyway, it’s just fun to watch sometimes; Me You and Everyone We Know is a beautiful movie, but admittedly too indie-awkward for its own good; Waking Life is just a shittier, viz. way more pompous/contrived version of Slacker, which is Linklater’s true genius work, and doesn’t deserve to be disparaged here; I understand the Clockwork Orange criticism in that its cultural integration has become nauseatingly insider, it isn’t Kubrick’s best, but it is still Kubrick and therefore atmospherically brilliant and maybe lighten up a little bit whoever wrote this critique; Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is made on Depp’s performance, but let’s face it, its a drug movie and never really goes beyond being an amusement park ride for college kids who think they are pushing the cosmic envelope by spending their parents cash on magic fungi instead of hitting the books like the guy that’s going to be their boss in a couple of years is doing; i never liked Rushmore particularly and I think Wes Anderson is another film-maker whose work generally falls into the category of too indie for its own good; Coffee and Cigarettes does have deeper themes of collective unconscious resonance, the glue that binds us all together, on top of that, its impeccably acted and deserves to be talked about, a lot, so eat it sourpuss; I won’t say anything about Reality Bites since I’ve never watched it all the way through, but it’s probably safe to say that there is more nostalgia than content there; finally, The Big Lebowski, your wrong, whoever wrote this is simply wrong about the Big Lebowski, its a film that manages to be funny and charming while educing the closest thing to a genuine ethical treatment of our contemporary moment in history that exists, the acting is excellent, and the characters, while largely drawn through charicature, are accurate metaphors for the ideological currents at play in modern society and they interact with near flawless machination, it is a farce, but a brilliant farce, which has such great resonance because it teaches a lesson so simple that it seldom occurs to anyone: all you need to do in life to be happy is to peacably abide.
You get paid to write?
WOW.
I want in!!
This is crap.
ps
The name Judy Berman sounds like my mom.
What a poor article – some of these are great movies that stand up over time. A Clockwork Orange is fantastic. Please fire this writer.
I would like to know where Donnie Darko was … ie why the hell it wasnt on the list!! definitely a hipster film that gets over referenced and over quoted. Its an amazing movie.. so maybe thats why its no here, because its not a movie that hipsters should get over.. but it does deserve some sort of recognition here!!
Hipster writes article about how hipsters are totally lame because they like the same stuff other hipsters do. Ironic critical mass achieved.
you know us hipsters love irony, right? I googled “movies hipsters love” to find ideas for movies to watch…and came across your page. thanks for the recommendations.
You just described The Royal Tenebaums as “generally inaccessible”. Really? Inaccessible? I’m not entirely sure you ought to be in the business of reviewing films if you’re finding The Royal Tenebaums “inaccessible”. Its got pretty basic themes, lady.
i think the title should have been 10 movies we will never get over… or should for that matter!
oh eat my balls. this is a retarded list. i find hipsters as irritating as anyone (i used to live in Harlem and visit Williamsburg for shows and wanted nothing more than to unleash my metal axe on their necks), but this is just a list of mostly really good movies. you can’t take them away from me/us by stupidly labeling them as “hipster” movies. hipsters can like them if they want, even more than they deserve, and i won’t begrudge them. but i do begrudge you. i sure hope you didn’t get paid for this crap.
When the hell did Wet Hot American Summer become some sort of iconic hip thing? Last I remember it was a straight to Comedy Central knock off of Meatballs that nobody has mentioned since it first aired.
This person effectively trolled 83 hipsters. The best part is she gets paid with every hit that butthurt hipsters give her. Keep on trollin.
one word hipsters need to get over.
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