When Joan’s husband hung up the phone, you could tell by his facial expression that he didn’t buy Joan’s story about her pregnancy. He knows the baby isn’t his. My guess is that he’s sterile. That would make sense of a lot of things.

That’s why I don’t think they will kill him off. It’s too easy. Instead, they’ll bring him back with a lot more tension between him and Joan.

I bet he’ll be injured, and crippled or something and yes, raising a kid he knows isn’t his once he comes back.
As for Roger- I think it’s too obvious to kill him off, and he’s FAR too entertaining! I think an excellent twist would be to have him outlive them all.
Betty seems ready to suck tailpipe or develop a mighty addiction to “Dolls” or something.
The school-teacher chick is one of the only of Don’s ex gf’s we haven’t seen again. Odds on a guest appearance/discovery of a love child maybe??
Peggy is due for some serious drama, but I’m hoping she stands triumphant by the end of the series.
Any ideas on how long this show will go on? I think the 70′s could be awesome, but I don’t think I’d be interested in seeing it thru to the 80′s.
Ken Cosgrove is gonna woop Pete Campbell’s ass and I’m gonna love every minute of it. I wish they’d bring back my favorite bohemian copywriter, though. Paul Kinsey all the way.
As for Don and Megan, gods only knows. He did seem very happy with her, but that was FAR TOO SOON! Again, calculated in business and ridiculously immature in matters of the heart. I love ya Don, you stupid fool. This should be interesting. Hope they don’t make us wait too long for season 5!!

Joan’s husband dies and Roger steps in to ironically, take responsibility for a child that is actually his.

From the conversation Joan had with her husband, I got the impression that he was gay. Don’t ask me why. THen again, the token gay person from previous seasons has not returned so maybe…. Also, I wanted to see who threw the paper ball to him…hmmmm.
Let’s not forget the little tiny scene a few weeks back of Faye on the phone in a booth while Don was evesdropping. She was yelling at the poor guy whomever he was! I caught that. She will not let Don get away with dumping her. Uh-uh. And also, let’s not forget that she knows his SECRET…
I think Betty will want Don back once she sees how much the children love his new fiance, and she will be so impressed once they start speaking french fluently…ha.ha. After all, we always want what we can’t have, n’est pas?
What happened to Peggy’s new boyfriend? Seemed like she really liked him after all.. Maybe she will experiment with her lesbian friend..
And what pray tell, what will become of Karla? I loved how she laid down the law to Betty: You don’t have to talk like that… Oh if only she could have said:getta the “f…” out my way fore I hit you upside the head…crazy white bitch!
When Don saw the writing on the wall: Dick and Anna I think he felt that he wanted to have a soulmate; someone with whom he could share his life, and so that made his proposal seem right to him. He is a man who does what he wants when he wants. He will stick with Frenchie for a while, unless of course until someone should off her. That’s always a possibility. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned…

Am I the only one that desperately wants to see Joan and Roger together? I think I agree with this prediction, that Joan’s husband will die in Vietnam. I think those of you who think he “knew” the child couldn’t be his, are giving him way too much credit! I think Roger will find out the baby is his…but won’t step up right away. Joan will be a single mom through next season, but maybe a Joan/Roger reunion by the end.

I think Peggy is in love with Don…personally and professionally, that’s why she was so irritated when he, out of the blue, proposed to his beautiful young secretary. Although the engagement was shocking, he seemed genuinely happy – and the only other times I’ve seen Don that happy was when he was with Anna. Something about that trip to California sparked something. I think they will go on to get married, without a doubt. I agree that Dr. Miller will be back though, and she will probably spill the beans about Don’s secret, or at least threaten to.

There are many weeks that I cheer for Roger more than anyone else in the cast. His one-liners are always great. I really enjoy the chemistry that he has with Joan. You can’t create it. They just have it. I hope Roger steps up and takes care of his child.

One question … Did anyone think that there was fog on the window at the very end of the episode? As if, there was someone standing out on the fire escape looking at Don. Perhaps Faye? Or is that just crazy talk.

Also, did anyone think that when Don and Betty walked out of the kitchen, something was going to happen to one of them in the quietness of the moment. Like Don or Betty were going to get shot or something? That scene seemed so dark and gloomy at the end. I just had this gut wrenching feeling that Glen or someone was going to shoot Betty or Don. Again, it might be crazy talk.

I think this show is amazing. I can’t wait until Season 5.

They better bring back Bert.

And … Miss Blakenship was one of the greatest characters to ever enter Sterling Cooper or Sterling Cooper Draper Price.

Great Season!

What I really wanna see is who’s going to be the first to drop acid. It’ll be toss up between Don and his cali connect or the obvious flirting with experimentation that knocks on Peggy’s door.
Its gonna be ’67 next season and I can’t wait to see Sterling Cooper Draper Price’s reaction to the counter culture’s influence in the advertising world.

Another prediction: Salvatore Romano will reappear. They way he was dispatched was ignominious and revealed Don Draper at his lowest. He was sent away at Lee Garner Jr. behest and now that tobacco cowboy is SCDP’s nemesis. Also, Salvatore’s homosexuality was an interesting story line in the show and is something that needs to be re-examined as we approach the era of Stonewall riots of 1969.

How is it that Rodger is not a dad yet again? This horney old playboy knocked up Joan; yet he has a young wife who is NOT pregnant? They didn’t have the birth control pill back then,,,,

What happened to the Brit’s black playboy bunny girlfriend? I liked her…

I noticed that Joan lied about how big she was to her MD husband….He will figure it out when the kid tells one liners and has curly white hair….

What happened to the book Rodger wrote?

Why is it that it has not helped or hurt the agency?

Where is Hilton? He always liked Don….

Will Faye rat out Don’s secret? If she was better with kids, he would have married her…

The agency will return; remember 6 months we will meet again (if you are still around) we heard this three times…the writers were sending a message…

What happened to Duc?

I hope they don’t kill off Rodger…I know the actor directs the show but he is a great character….

Why doesn’t anyone get VD on this show????

What happened to the teacher Don did last season? When he was single, he should have looked her up….

How you uh, how you comin’ on that novel you’re working on? Huh? Gotta a big, uh, big stack of papers there? Gotta, gotta nice litte story you’re working on there? Your big novel you’ve been working on for 3 years? Huh? Gotta, gotta compelling protagonist? Yeah? Gotta obstacle for him to overcome? Huh? Gotta story brewing there? Working on, working on that for quite some time? Huh? (voice getting higher pitched) Yea, talking about that 3 years ago. Been working on that the whole time? Nice little narrative? Beginning, middle, and end? Some friends become enemies, some enemies become friends? At the end your main character is richer from the experience? Yeah? Yeah? (voice returns to normal) No, no, you deserve some time off.

To the commenter who wrote “They didn’t have the birth control pills back then” – yes, they did. Did you ever see the first episode of Mad Men? The very first episode of season one shows Peggy going to get birth control pills! They were approved by the FDA and on the American market in 1960.

I don’t think anything will happen to Roger’s book as it was printed by a vanity press, not a real publisher.

As to the writer’s contention that “next year will be 1967,” season 4 ended in 1965. Do you really think they’ll skip all of 1966? It’s an important, pivotal year.

What if Dr Miller tells everybody about Don’s little secret so he has to go on martial court…. But because he will be married soon to a Canadian woman (Megan, from Montreal) he will be able escape to Canada! It could be the end of the next Season, what do you think? :-)

What I want to know is when is Peggy going to have a fling with her new lesbian friend?

Don Married his secretary so he could have dual citizenship. She is French and I think there is some angle being played because he is nervous the feds will find out about his desertion during the Korean war.

This is a list of non-predictions.

“Peggy faces a difficult professional decision”?

Do you foresee another affair in Don’s future, oh vaguest of seers?

Or perhaps someone on the show will drink a cocktail at work.

Well I might be one of the few people who thinks the show lost a little sparkle this season with the ‘Soap Opera’ theme to the show. One of the greatest qualities of the show was that is demonstrated Don’s genius when it came to advertising. Now it seems he is just an average schmuck at a flailing new firm. I really loved the conflict with people in the business environment. This season I had to use one of my baseball scorecards to keep track of Don’s girlfriends. We all know he is a lady’s man, now he just seems as a lady’s man who never works. I love this show and look forward to it every week but I was a bit disappointed this season. As far as predictions, I think it is obvious Joan’s husband will die in Vietnam, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Don moves to L.A. and opens a firm there. I think the well is dry in N.Y. Call me cynical but I could do without the cast changing every other week.

Don and Megan marry. Don decides not to sell the family home and moves in with Megan, hires Carla and gets custody of the children.
Betty has a complete breakdown.

Remember Sally’s teacher that Don had the affair with?
She has had his love-child. He finds out about it now that he’s back in the old neighborhood.

Dr. Miller is a time bomb. She’s smart, capable, and pissed. Draper ought to be very, very concerned with her. (It’s only a secret when two people know and one of them’s dead. Now Betty and Miller know it all. And the Feds are close behind.)

Megan is going to be short-lived as well. “It’s the teeth,” as her cruel friend said. No way she’s hot enough to keep Don’s attention. I think she reminds him of his childhood. He’s acting like a schoolboy with her, and through much of this season, despite his failing attempts to stop drinking, he’s thrashed with everything, only marginally in control of himself. (Panic attack, anyone?)

And I agree with a commenter above: I want the business focus back in the story. Much of the draw for me (besides Joan and rest of the women that dress like women that remind of me of hot older women when I was younger) is the way Don delivers and drives clients. The writing in this regard is genius. And the way actual advertising campaigns are drawn into the storyline is magnificent.

SCDP may win big with Virginia Slims. Remember the commentary about a “woman’s cigarette”? Will this be a problem with the American Cancer Society and render Don publicly hypocritical?

Brian Batt [Sal] returns, now that Lucky Strike has been dropped as a SCDP client.

Roger is one the greatest things about Mad Men tbh…and i still hate Joan’s husband from the moment he raped her :(

I agree with Jaz.. I have despised Joan’s husband from the moment he raped her.
I hope roger doesnt die! and I dont think frenchie is quite right for Don. She is far too boring. I liked Dr Miller. I think he will go running back to her after some time. I thought Don was somewhat more shallow this season.

Next season is 1966, not 1967!

surely someone will get lung cancer? its about time, yes? wiener owes it to the world now.

peggy will somehow come between don and bambi – i am guessing.i really don’t like the doctor because she is so smart about business and so dumb about people / don. surely there will be some mafia type intervention -

god i hope they don’t go Melrose on us and have people committing crimes of passion as suggested above.

What ever happened to Honda? It looked like they were going to get that one.

When is the premiere of season 5?

I feel like what I’m about to say makes me seem like a teacher, but I love everyones comments! I could totally see Sally’s former teach having had a baby, but based on the time between season 3 and 4 the baby would probally be at least 2 by now so I think it would’nt be as good of a story. I think an even better unexpected pregnancy story would be to revisit Peggy and Pete’s child, maybe the adoptive parents died and have no family so the baby is given back to her. Imagine all of the awesome drama that would cause for everyone! People automatically think Greg will die because he’s going to Vietnam but I think it would be a great twist if they killed off Jane. With Jane dead, Greg and Joan get a divorce because shes pregnant with Roger’s baby and then Roger can be with Joan. They don’t seem like that great of a couple in the present time but in the flashback and in season 1 they just seemed so right together. As with most of you I dont really care for Megan, but there must be a reason for her. She speaks fluent french and is from Canada. Those two facts alone don’t seem like much, just her back story, but when she keeps speaking french and saying how her mother only speaks French- I think this is going to be important in season 5.

@Thomas. In 1966 you couldn’t have dual American and any other citizenship. That didn’t happen later so that theory is out of the window. Dual citizenship is fairly recent in the US.

I’m pretty sure nobody will die (or will be killed) in season 5. There are quite few people died during the whole story so far (Anna and Miss Blakenship are the only I remember). Joan’s baby is Roger’s but that will change nothing. But one day he should probably have to know this surprise.
Megan will become Don’s wife and will stay for long. She’s like Betty’s opposite: brunette, well-tempered, nice with children. It will be Don again who spoils relationship…
At the same time I hope Faye will stay, I like her. Maybe she’ll be second Anna?..

Lung cancer isn’t required, Wiener doesn’t “owe” it to anybody. If you want to depict something right then you don’t settle for mediocrity and being politically correct.

Peggy and Don start to share many tender moments together only to realize much later that they were actually meant for each other. However, somewhere in between, I would like to see a hot yet honest moment between Don and Joan.

Faye seems like a nice person, but she might as well reveal Don’s identity or use it to blackmail him. It’s unlikely she’d blackmail him back into a relationship, but who knows…

I love the hints of feminism and the anti sexism movement coming to the fore with Joan and Peggy leading. I love the attention to the beginning of the anti smoking campaigns, and we know how that took off in advertising and in politics.. heads and reputations did roll :) I would love to see the nasty tobacco guy forced out of the closet by a good anti homophobic moment. Roger is my favorite too, I love his one-liners, he’s so dry.. I wanna see him win.
Don is becoming predictable and transaprent in his relationships, so not so interested in what happens there.
I so hope some Vietnam stories come out, (remember the horrifc images of the atrocoties, ( I think the importance of world press photos emerged then and advertising became more of a real political weapon? ) there are some good reasons why men didn’t want to be in that war.. lets hear them, and see the Doc go through some of what they went through.. there is the whole story behind what these men came back from… the crime against the young men of America going there in the first place. The drugs that were given them. Not to mention the beatnic’s, the racial tension, the music… Yes 1966 is a pivotal year.. God am I old now or did I just grow up with these people being just like my parents :) Love this show!! Can’t wait for the next season.. thank you for this wonderful journey!

The best thing ( well, one of the best among many, many bests) is that, even though we know what will happen historically as time unfolds, we never know what’s going to happen to these characters or how those times will affect them. This is all pure speculation, and nobody REALLy knows, which makes this show even better!

i wish Don and Peggy realize that they are made for each other. and lots of conflict would be created between Peggy and the “the new Peggy”, Megan.
But i can also remember Joan’s face when Don kissed her at the award’s ceremony. We could notice something sexy between the two of them and that Joan didn’t find it unpleasant at all!

i don’t think Greg will die because it would then be obvious that Joan will go back with Roger. Nevertheless i do think that it’s roger’s baby..if there is a baby! because there is something i might have not understood..but when Greg left, joan wasn’t pregnant..and she had sex with Roger quite a long time after! Sooo it usually takes 12 months to give birth..when greg will come back..either he will find out that she did not have a baby, and she’s being lying to him all the time because of a certain reason, or she will still be pregnant and roger will find out somehow that it’s his child but that might be at the end of the next season..

Fraye likes Don too much to do something wrong..and Betty finally realize that Don moved on and she totally lost him,so i think she’ll try to see him more often giving him various weird reasons or maybe for sally.

not actually, lol if joan is still pregnant Roger will obviously know that’s it his child :)

I too have hated Joan’s husband since that rape scene. He’s an idiot.

I hope, and think Salvatore will come back next season. Clearly SCDP has had a lack of leadership in the art department, and they have gone out of their way to show that.

Beyond that, I have no idea. If I never see Betsy again I will be happy.

Although terribly flawed and tortured, Don genuinely loves his children.He is actually more affectionate than Betty.It did not escape him when his little Sally ran into the arms of Megan…after Dr. Miller miserably failed.I disagree with the comment “selfpossessed Megan”..she can love children who are not even hers. I noticed the same quality in Betty as Dr.Miller which is why I thought he would stay with her…similar attraction. He told Megan he feels with her how he always wanted to.Perhaps watching his children with her and grasping how they are feeling…he wants to feel the same way.He may fail with Megan and put to rest any theory that perhaps he and Betty just werent right as no woman can save him. Or we just might see the show end with Don finding his way and learning that Oz is in his backyard with the help of a family that simply accepts who Don is…isn’t that what this is about is Don’s search for his identity, his fear of being found out and his need for love and acceptance.

they do seem to be setting up the show for roger and coop to be replaced by don and pete, and peggy and joan? please. peggy is still an idiot. she has no clue about how to spot who’s using her and joan is a user more despicable and dangerous then don because joan gets to play the female victim card. peggy should have learned by now joan is out for joan. every office has one.
ken cosgrove is a waste of air time and this show seems to have gone down hill creatively ever since don’s secret turned out to be no freaking deal.
what’s he going to do, fake his death and move on again to get out of having a job and a life because he’s at heart a con man? maybe he goes to nam and joins an a team as it’s scrounger..

My guess is that Peggy will have a lesbian affair with that lebo chick that keeps coming around. Joan’s husband will be killed in the war, Pete will continue to click along and yes Sal will return.

Don will screw up this relationship as well and continue to feel pressure because of his dessertion.

glenn is gonna return because he’s matthew weiner’s son. peggy’s not jealous, she just knows don best so she knows he’s being stupid about the marriage.

Don’s past as a deserter will come home to roost in the midst of Vietnam. His aborted security investigation will show that he is a deserter. What happens then?

Reading these comments I am reminded of Ken’s remark about McCann.

I think Trudy will find out about Peggy and Peter’s baby and I reckon Roger and his new wife will divorce and eventually Joan and him will get together. I would love it if there was a law case about Stan’s sexism.
Peggy’s feelings about Don are so confusing, I too thought she loved her new bf but she’s obviously got some sort of thing for Don.
I think Don and Frenchie will be happy together but its going to make Betty go nuts. Betty is a spoilt brat anyway and she obviously needs therapy for herself. I hope a psychiatrist tells her she’s the reason Sally is so angry.
Best show ever.

This is NOT a soap so I think that the whole drama with Don’s love child and someone being shot will not happen. However, I agree, I think that Joan’s husband will die. Joan will be a single mother, at least for a while as she will not let Roger help. However will Peggy and Pete’s love child’s storyline reappear?

I *really* wanted to see Don end up with Faye. She is beautiful, intelligent, and like Anna, he can talk openly with her. I really liked when Don went to CA for those 2 mos and they showed his relationship with Anna. He went from serious bizman to having this boyish charm and demeanor whenever he would talk about their past, and his current issues. I hope they can get Don back with Faye, or that super hot school teacher. I don’t forsee any interesting story plot with Peggy (other than my personal interests to see her experiment with her girlfriend). Joan’s hubby will die and she never went through with the abortion so it is Roger’s baby. I’m certain that will be part of the plot. I would like to see more of the biz and sales pitch back in the plot. SCDP will succeed. Betty and Don will prob have some “personal” time together bc, well, now she wants what she can’t have. Sally will be the rebel. If the show continues into the 70′s she will be the free love “loose” woman her mom predicted a few episodes ago bc she has daddy issues.

also, I just learned about this show a month ago. I got season 1 from netflix and pulled S02-04 off the net. After watching the 1st 3 episodes on S01 I was hooked. I loved the business plots, gender roles, the common acceptance to drink/smoke anywhere, the chivalry, and the professionalness of the secrataries. (I don’t smoke but I live in Iowa and it is illegal to smoke pretty much anywhere public now (which I like)). Joan is one of my favorites. She is elegant, assertive, and very professional. I love how they can end an aqward or unprofessional with a “is there anything else?” or some other professional discraction. You just don’t see that anymore

I think that Don is going to bump into Rachel Menken (his stunning, smart, rich Jewish mistress who ran the department store from Season 1). She’s married to another jew, but I have a feeling that she is divorced now. I think writer Matthew Weiner has a big heart for Rachel and will bring her back in Season 5. I don’t think Don will marry Megan.

I think Ken Cosgrove and Peggy might hook up. The season ended June 1965 and Ken’s wedding was not until October 1965.

I am VERY dissapointed by Ken’s dowdy, short brown-haired, fiancee. They should have cast someone very beautiful, smart, sexy, because Ken is the “Golden Boy” and I would have liked to see Pete jealous over Ken scoring a hot woman.

Salvatore Romano is NOT coming back and Peggy will not be a lesbian! Everyone loves Sal, but his story is over after we saw him at a gay area in Central Park.

I don’t think Matthew Weiner will kill off a character either- it’s just too obvious. Betty should get diagnosed with lung cancer and die (remember her father told her “stop smoking! You smoke like chimney) but it’s too obvious.

Remember the episode “The Rejected” when Pete goes into the lobby to meet with the partners and Vick Chemicals, and he glances at Peggy through the glass (an understaning, emotional exchange between the two of their baby Peggy adopted out). Did anyone notice that right behind Pete, through the window, there is a tall office building outside, with the BIG address of 666 on it. 666 is the Devil’s code, etc. Did Matthew Weiner do this on purpose?

One more posting…

Did anyone understand the “joke” about the fired Topaz pantyhose model “Carolyn Jones” in the finale? She was lesbian Joyce’s model friend who she brings to Peggy’s office and whom Harry Crane flirts with. She says “Carolyn Jones, just like Morticia.” Ya- I know that actress Carolyn Jones (Aaron Spelling’s ex-wife)played Morticia on “The Addams Family” TV show until 1964 and the season finale takes place June 1965. Was Matthew Weiner a big fan of the show when he was a kid and it was some “inside joke” or something?

Joan’s husband will not die- it’s way too obvious. He could be in Viet Nam for a few years though. Roger will figure out it is his baby because Joan already told him that it could NOT be her husband’s. I think Peggy is going to help Joan with her baby and the two women will develop a close bond. Joan’s husband is obviously sterile and he doesn’t realize it or want to acknowledge it because he is a failure.

If you are angry that Don suddenly chose Megan over long-term girlfriend Faye, you are stupid and did NOT pay attention. In the middle of the season, Faye said “I am NOT good with children” after Don wanted her to watch Sally. Faye was also extremely pushy- always stopping by his apartment, calling constantly, constantly setting up lunch and dinner dates. Don NEVER asked Faye out. Megan on the other hand, suddenly offer sex to Don on his couch, but she said “hey- no strings attached, it’s just for fun, I’m not going to cry, etc.” She was very calm, sweet, and cool about it. Dr. Faye was just too pushy and Megan makes an excellent, natural mom to Don’s 3 brats.

Roger made it VERY clear to Joan that whatever decision she chose (abortion, keep their baby), that he would NOT be a father to that child period.

Roger was married to Mona for 30 years and they only had 1 child. Obviously having kids wasn’t a thing Roger really wanted in his life. Roger won’t divorce his 23 year old current wife because she will take all of his money, won’t agree to a Reno divorce (it was very hard to get a divorce in New York state back then), and she truly loves him despite some fights. Maybe she’s on the pill or she didn’t want any kids, and preferred just to be a young rich woman who stays home, buys expensive designer clothes, and takes care of her apartment and husband.

Cooper’s leaving and Pete C. becomes the C in SCDP. He wanted his name in the lobby from the beginning of the new firm. Maybe he will get it.

When lesbian Joyce appeared on the scene of Mad Men she flirted with Megan who then worked at the front desk, before she became Don’s secretary. Megan shyly looked down – and was well aware of the flirting. If anyone becomes interested in female homosexuality it’s going to be Megan. Peggy is so relaxed with Joyce, nothing will happen between them.

could someone tell me what season and which episode of that season did Joan’s husband rape her?

Oh, I’d be guessing but if it helps at all.. I seem to remember it being end of season 1.. either last episoede or one before. If I’m wrong, some one out there please correct me.

@ DeeDee I believe it was the end of season 2 actually. Perhaps somewhere in the last 3 eps

Oh and I, too, am wondering whats going to happen with Joyce!

I’m beginning to wonder if Matt Wiener is the one with committment phobia. Just when his characters get to the point where they begin to go deeper – Don and the researcher, Don and the dept store heiress, Don and the teacher, and most importantly, Roger and Joan – he pulls the plug on the relationship. I, for one, want to see more depth and less capricious plot changes. Don’s recent engagement to this nebish of a character was such a disappointing twist. Please Matt…let Don and Roger face their inner demons and go head to head with some meatier partners. Bring back the researcher, the dept store heiress and/or the teacher so we can see Don have to deal with a strong female protagonist. That is what will keep the show fresh.

Ellin- Megan was not a dissapointing choice at all. Matt Wiener showed all season what a bad mother Betty is. Then we had Dr. Faye say “I am NOT good with kids!” in the middle of season 4. Dr. Faye was soooooo pushy- After they started dating, Don NEVER asked Faye out. If Don was so into Faye, he would have been asking her out on dates, etc. Wiener contrasted Betty’s rage as a mother with Megan’s natural ability as a mother. Don’s daughter reacted very badly around Faye. It was obvious in the end, that Don would choose Megan. I saw that coming in the middle of the season.

I have some thoughts about Don. Since he never met his mother, he misses female warmth, so he often considers women as a temporary refuge, a sort of cosy nest he can hide for a while. That is why he is usually warm and tender with them- sometimes with 3 of them at the same period! He means it, the moment he is with each one, that is why they all believe him. However, his attitude does not look so sexy anymore, for female viewers at least. We women usually fantasize that we can change men-even a womanizer can change if he meets the right person, us for example! Don meets a right person every two episodes, something that makes him appear shallow. How can you trust a heart that changes moods so often? If the creators of Mad Men have started to realize this, there is a chance that they will let him rest for a while. That is why they put Megan next to him, possibly a sweet stepmother for his children, elegant and from a good family, as it seems. If Don stopps flirting for a season he can a) become even better as a father( he has been improving, thank God) b) stop kissing so often(it is getting boring) and c) concentrate on business.

As far as Peggy is concerned, she is a great character and, in fact, the most complicated and complicating one. I would love to see her with Pete( and I agree , their child should re-appear somehow). I am not so sure she is in love with Don. She got jealous of Megan because of her inferiority complex, mostly. When she saw her with Don, engaged, she thought “I am clever, I am creative, I am close to him but not beautiful and glamorous and important enough to have him. Something like this would have never happened to someone like me, something is always missing from me”.

Mad Men is wonderful, by the way. In all aspects.

This is perfect! I watched the last episode only yesterday, and observed exactly the same tendencies…to an extent that it was almost uncanny reading this post. I also agree with Don and Megan only being for a short time happy, as he chose her only for being good with his kids. Faye and Don would have been equals, but opting for Megan foreshadows Betty’s tragedy.

While watching the last season and Betty”s strong reaction to Glen’s visit to Sally prior to their move, I remembered weird interactions between Betty and Glen in much earlier season’s episodes. I began to think that Betty was jealous. Sounds crazy? and she is! I predict Betty,Glen,or mr. francis gets shot by betty, glen or mr. francis.
Peggy will not get together with don!
joan will be happy whatever is chosen.
mr campbell and peggy will not get together!
i too would love to see salvatore back!
i never really liked faye’s personality (or her cosmetic surgeries) though i learned to respect her.
i also loved the jewish princess with don! so perfectly passionate.

I just saw all the episodes in bulk, with a nights sleep as the only omercial. Loved it! Didn’t think I would.

It’s like the mad man in the intro, everythings falling apart around him to the point where he finds himself falling down to a certain demise and yet in the end, albeit with a little grey hair and maybe some dust on his suit, there he sitts in a comfortable chair in complete cool with a cigarette secure between his fingers.

Don/Dick is both a big dick and a mad man. Even a lesbian like Peggy’s friend Joyce doesn’t see the amount of vulva Dick does.

Remember him calling Betsy a whore when she wanted to divorce him? Mommy issues anyone? He’s a narcissist. Clearly . I just haven’t figured out if it’s Don, Dick or both. Maybe he’s even a split personality, who could tell anymore? Anyone who could is dead by now!

I want D. with Peggy but he’ll never wise up in time and she’s too smart to consider it seriously. Just like Anna.

Megan is a no-go. Way too left field. D. looked like he just turned on his charm for some grander scheme. We all know he doesn’t just do things on a whim. Whether or not he is in fact fooling himself or everyone else, someone is going to look stupid by the end of that engagement and it won’t be D.

Roger isnt going anywhere thats not going to happen. He definitely wont die before Cooper anyway. I think Don will marry Megan and be happy for however long he really seemed happy and in love with her, hes been looking at her all season hes totally in love. I think Joan will be a single mom for a bit cuz her hubbie is definitely getting bumped off in Vietnam. Roger will eventually step up but its going to take a long time. Peggy is awesome and her and Joan are going to form an alliance and be actual friends finally. Betty is screwed I dont know what shes going to do and I cant wait for Sally to hit puberty and become a total hippie cuz she is so going to. The Dr. will be back to ruin Don in some way whether threats or telling people his secret and confusing yet another marriage for Don. Peggy and Pete’s baby will be brought to the surface soon poor Trudy. I really hope that Don doesnt screw up with Megan shes good people. I think a good twist would be Sally leaving Betty to live with Don and her new mommy that would piss Betty off.

DeeDee i think it was season 2 or 3 at the very end, because she hasnt been married all that long, he totally did rape her thats why i hate him and their marriage is no good. I think he’ll find out that the baby isnt his before he dies so he’ll get killed while him and Joan are not on good terms.

I didn’t feel like reading all the comments to see if it’s been said before, but I think that we might see the return of Sal, the art director and illustrator. His only reason for leaving was because Lee was embarrassed from being turned down and now that the firm has lost American Tobacco, all the reasons for getting rid of Sal are gone. Unless he left the show for reasons beyond story. I hope he comes back, I really liked him. I kept waiting for a break up with Lucky Strike.

How tragic it would be for Joan if Roger, and Doc dies. She will not have anyone to turn to, and living on what she makes has already been shown to be difficult.

Has AMC announced when Season 5 will start? I enjoyed all the predictions above and can’t wait to see what happens.

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I love this series. In germany we dont have good series, but Mad Men ist now the best.

Whatever happens, I have to throw in these two cents: The point of this show is not to see fictional people wind up with that perfect someone. Matt Weiner is more faithful to our history than to any of the characters he created to tell it. A lot of men like Don really never did learn to form healthy relationships. Many of them really did become irrelevant in an advertising market defined by youth culture. A lot of women like Joan really never did find their dream men and had to go it alone. That isn’t to be pessimistic- I’m sure there will be positive developments, especially for Peggy and for Pete, who embrace social change more heartily and intelligently than most (also Ken?). And maybe things won’t turn out so badly for Don, Joan and the rest, either. But I doubt that will be because the writers poof someone into their lives who can fix everything, or worse, bring back someone like Rachel Menken just because she was cool and we wish Don hadn’t lost her.

Anyway, I love this show and am glad it has so many fans. Cheers to Mad Men.

Here in Germany we have just finished series 3 and hopefully series 4 will be aired soon. Reading all the predictions above for series 5 I can’t wait!!

What I love about Mad Men is that they care about every little detail in clothing, furniture, history etc. Even the German au-pair that Pete seduced was obviously a German native speaker – an American wouldn’t have been able to do the German accent so naturally :-)

Hope for many series still to come.

Peggy and Don will sooo get together.. may not be in Season 5 but shortly after i think. Dont forget the ‘knowing’ smile that Anna’s ghost gave Don when she appeared to him while he was sleeping on Peggy’s lap. Like to say she was happy with that relationship.. more to come there definitely..

I am SURE that Sally will run away/ take off driving either her mother or stepfather’s car…. Don’t you remember that episode where Betty’s father had SALLY driving his vehicle?

I also think that the school teacher will come back into the picture….her departure was just too bittersweet. She loved Sally and Sally loved her, too. She’d be the perfect one to be back in Don’s life in time to protect Sally. I don’t think he’ll go through with the marriage to the secretary. She’ll disappear from the show; and, yeah, Salvatore HAS to come back.

I think Betty will lose custody of the children….or maybe just Sally. Does anyone think that the 3rd child is Don’s???? I thought it this child was the result of her fling in the bar with the unknown guy.

No, No, don’t get rid of Roger. He’s a wonderful character and I know he’s got to re-connect with Joan.

Well, correct me if I’m wrong, but Betty was already pregnant when she had that tryst with the stranger.
And I think Megan won’t last- she can’t tame Don and, when it comes down to choosing between his children’s (Sally’s) happiness or his own (even though he is the forever unsatisfied type), he will choose the latter. He loves his kids, but he won’t sacrifice himself. But it would be nice to see him with a woman who could actually see through his glooming exterior- like Anna and Peggy, at times-, a woman who could truly sweep him off his feet. An equal, a confidant, not just a pretty girl or a match in bed.
I do hope the show lasts for many years to come; I know Sally, as a free spirit and a natural born rebel, will enjoy everything-sex, drugs,you name it- on her own terms. As a child from a broken home, her storyline was deeply emotional for me this last season, and I like her immensely. She is a lot like her father, whom I adore.
This is too long already, but I could not leave Betty out of this comment: I began to loathe her. I had tremendous sympathy for her throughout the show until the fourth season; how embittered, spoiled and disgusting a woman she’s become! I can’t wait to see her whole façade destroyed. Plus, Henry’s a douche. Their blissful relationship- as if!-is doomed.
As far as the predictions go, Pete will rise as a major partner, I’m sure; SCDP will get back on its feet- can you see Don as an EMPLOYEE again? The man is his own and only boss now; Joan will be fine, she is strong and centered, but it would be nice to see her living the life she so strongly desired for herself; Ken HAS TO GO, I can’t stand him.
Remember, like 99% of humanity, none of these characters He is simply a waste of precious time and has a boring storyline.
Remember, like 99% of humanity, none of this characters are happy; some of them don’t even want to be.
And I’m positive we don’t have to be concerned about this “going Melrose”, we have been given plenty of reasons to believe in Weiner’s talent…just remember the carousel. That is brilliancy in the television format.
I can’t hardly wait for the next one!!!

God, some of it just came wrong, let’s do it again:

He is simply a waste of precious time and has a boring storyline (KEN, I mean).
Remember, like 99% of humanity, none of this characters are happy; some of them don’t even want to be.
And I’m positive we don’t have to be concerned about this “going Melrose”, we have been given plenty of reasons to believe in Weiner’s talent…just remember the carousel. That is brilliancy in the television format.
I can’t hardly wait for the next one!!!

I’m with Harper regarding the show becoming a little “Soap-ish”. Producers and writers should understand what works in the beginning is what they should stick to.

I feel they messed up on the story line about Peggy and the baby. I was looking forward to Peggy and Pete’s secret being found out and creating all kinds of drama! Pete took the news too calmly which didn’t seem like the reaction I would expect of him, due to his hot temper and his need to be in control. I thought he would go and get his child, despite the consequences of ruining his marriage.

I predict that Betty will run back to Don. They were made to be together because they’re good competition for each other, and no one else can put up with their evil, selfish personalities.

I didn’t like the storyline for Sally last season. They took away her innocence too fast. Let’s keep it clean for the kids for at least 2 more years, she’s only about 12 years old, right?

I’m correcting myself – I read Harper’s comment about “going Melrose” incorrectly, but I think Mad Men has changed a little to resemble some of the other nighttime shows I don’t care for.

1. Roger will NOT die.
2. Greg WILL.
3. Roger will be there for a vulnerable Joan (the pregnant widow).
4. Joan and Peggy’s alliance will grow, both professionally and personally.
5. Joan and Peggy will confide in one another’s secrets.
6. Seeing Pete’s baby will break Peggy down, forcing their past to be addressed and their storyline to be revisited.
7. Trudy will find out. And FINALLY leave the show.
8. Whether or not Don makes it down the isle with Megan, something will happen on her end that will force her out of the show.

All in all, Roger belongs with Joan and Pete with Peggy; There also needs to be major shift in Don’s storyline – develop and emphasize his relationship with his troubled daughter Sally instead. My interest in his romantic life is starting to wane, and I could care less about who he’s sleeping with.

As far as Betty goes, she’s so far in left field, I could care less about her character. I’ve already lost all respect and interest. The only thing that could gain it back (or cause me to empathize with her), is to have her go through a complete breakdown. And only then will I feel sorry for her. She’s but nothing but annoying this past season.

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I love that there are other people out there missing Mad Men as much as me….

Don and Megan will marry, and will have a tumultuous relationship as Megan will want to work and have a career and Don will want her to stay at home and be the little woman. But they will stay together and have babies. Don will end up neglecting his first children, bringing on further crises for poor Sally. He’s just dying to make a fresh start, as ever.
Betty will have a nervous breakdown seeing Don and Megan’s relative happiness. We’ll start the next season with Betty and Henry on the brink of splitting up, where they will stay in domestic hell, but giving the impression that all is well to ‘the neighbours’.
I agree that Peggy and Pete are meant to be together but…sigh! Real life and Mad Men is not always about what is meant to be.

“I think an even better unexpected pregnancy story would be to revisit Peggy and Pete’s child, maybe the adoptive parents died and have no family so the baby is given back to her. Imagine all of the awesome drama that would cause for everyone!”

Couldn’t have said it better myself!

Or he could have been in foster care his entire life had some of the people knew about Peggy’s mental state at the time thinking he had it too and nobody took him in and they give him back to her as a last resort. It would be a bit of a nightmare scenario for Peggy but could also give her the oppurtunity to teach the kid how to treat a woman with respect! Am I on to something here?

ANON???

silly, you forgot that her baby went to her sister, dont you remember her
sister talking to the priest about it. her sister is raising it as her own.

but i would love to see the drama unfold when pete and his perfect little wife (who cracks me up on “commmunity on NBC”) have that droped on their lap!!

I think the chances of that baby reappearing are non-existent and MW has already stated that Peggy’s sister has her own baby not Peggy’s. I definitely think the baby issue isn’t over though, surely it will have to come out somehow?!.. The fallout will be epic. I can’t wait.

Trudy is no idiot and she doesn’t take any crap, if the truth does come out she won’t be lying on the sofa in the dark Betty draper style, she’ll be out the door taking their child with her!

Really great show. I know you shouldn’t wish your life away but I cannot wait until 2012.

I think Peggy has an inferiority complex about her looks. Remember when all the guys had the hots for Ann Margaret in that film clip. So Peggy stood in front of her mirror miming the song, probably thinking “I’m as pretty as she is. Maybe”.

She wants to be “one of those girls” – a smartly dressed uptown Manhatten girl. That’s what she tells her sister. Remember how she thought she was too good for that home-town guy she went on the date with? She was overweight due to a pregnacy she wasn’t aware of, and JUST HATED that the guy said she “didn’t look like one of those girls”.

Peggy probably wonders why she’s the only secretary Don hasn’t slept with. (aside from the older lady). She is secretly jealous, but she knows she’s smarter than all the other girls. No-one can take that away from her.

UNTIL!!!!! Megan becomes a copy-writer, and a VERY GOOD ONE.
Won’t that get Peggy’s nose out of joint. Megan has a higher level of education, and may turn out to be a better copy-writer than Peggy.
So she will have beauty, brains, and Don. Ouch!

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I didn’t see any mention of Faye now knowing Don’s secret, and being a scorned lover, what she might do with that information.

Comes Mad Men S5 predictions, i hope to see Pete becomes Don’s best man while Peggy is Megan’s bridesmaid..that will be so cool..^__^

I think Don and Megan will divorce eventually because it seemed too impulsive for don to propose like that. They will try to make it work but it just wont work in the end because Don loves the experience of a new profound “in the moment” sensation. Don will probably have affairs again especially with faye and the teacher. Anna Draper’s death will haunt him causing him to lead to a self destructive pattern that will probably contribute to his and Megan’s divorce because he said Anna was the only person he felt truly connected to and truly knew him. Her Death impacted Don more than his reaction show. He will continue to travel to california to visit Anna’s niece and possibly visit his “radical” friends he met before.

Joan’s husband may or may not die in Vietnam. If he dies it will bear a burden on Joan’s mind forever concerning her lying to him about being pregnant with him when in fact its Roger’s baby. If he comes back he will eventually find out about the baby not being his and possibly physically harm her and/or Roger. (maybe having ptsd issues from Vietnam). Roger probably won’t die from a heart attack but maybe from Joan’s husband.

Betty’s marriage to Henry Francis will for sure end and various affairs with men will lead to ensue after their divorce. Then she will feel hopeless and stranded feeling that divorcing Don was a bad decision realizing that he was a bad husband but a somewhat decent father to their kids simply because Henry paid no mind or attention to the kids. She could possibly try to reconcile and reconnect with Don who will not be interested in being with her whatsoever. Sally Draper will become more rebellious as she comes to high school age and run away to live with Glen somewhere in the city, possibly partake in Woodstock since it will be 68′ soon.

Peggy will experiment with her new lesbian friend considering the late 60′s is when all the change in society happened. This won’t really led anywhere as her feelings for Pete will emerge forcing Pete to tell Trudy about his and Peggy’s baby they conceived, obviously ending their marriage. Pete and Peggy will develop a relationship as they have both always seemed the most compatible together. Peggy will then take back the baby from her sister and her and Pete will raise it together. Her recognition at the firm will be unnoticed causing her to leave the SCDP for another firm that is more noticing of her ideas and make her head of creative department which will lead her to square off against Don (this will definitely add dynamics to the show)

My take… Peggy and Don will get closer and Pete will get jealous. Despite the growth in their relationship, Trudy doesn’t understand his addiction to the firm. I love Pete. He has grown so much from the snotty undeserving rich kid to a self made man. I would love to see Pete and Peggy together in the end (end of show – hopefully not soon)looking for their son and running the show at the office or their own firm. I think I was disappointed by Don starting a diary this season – it was out of character. I think Peggy is the new Anna in his life. Despite their growing friendship, they but heads professionally and have some doozy face offs. Please, no lesbo relationship for Peggy. I think the lesbian will prove to be a great friend And mentor for Peg and I agree that if there is any lesbo relationship, it would be with Meghan. There is no room for another Peggy. Meghan might startup be a copywriter but she will fail and don will see that he made a mistake with her professionally and personally. As an aside, does M W have a Celine crush? Meghan is Canadian, big family, a singer… Faye may be back but I don’t think she will
expose Don. Sally will definitely leave Betty to live with Don for a while. Betty and Henrydivorce. Rachel will be back and Meghan will find out when Don cheats cuz we know he will… Joan will have Rodger’s
baby. Idiot husband will be a wreck when he gets back from Nam. At first, Joan will be supportive until he becomes abusive
and then when she threatens to leave, he will commit suicide. Roger needs to get his account mojo back with another great account. Roger at least for this or next season, will support Joan secretly. Sal needs to come back. Ken will marry but realize that he has to use his family connections or he will lose leverage at the firm. If he refuses, he becomes even more of a minor character. I think the stupid comment he made with the hosery people suggests that he will always be inferior to Pete as an account man.

Greg will come back, become abusive, Joan will threaten to leave and he will commit suicide. Roger will support Joan secretly until a later time when they get together for good. Roger needs to land an account to get his mojo back. Don is getting boring with all the women but you can’t change the spots on this leopard. He will have an affair with Rachel. Faye will not expose him but might threaten to… If anyone will hook up with Joyce, it will be Meghan. An aside… Does MW have a crush on Celine Dionne? I mean, a Canadian singer with a big family? Glen will be back And he will fall in love with Sally which will drive Betty nuts because she is jealous. Betty will lose her mind and her marriage and kids will live with Don for a while. Lets see him become more of a dad. Meghan will try to be a copyrighted but she will suck and Peggy will gain some confidence by realizing that she is too valuable to Don to be just a romp in the sheets. She will become Don’s Ana – that was why Ana visited him and smiled when he was sleeping in Peggy’s lap. Joan and Peggy will become closer and Peggy will realize that it is possible to have a career and family and she will long for one. Eventually, she will end up with Pete As Trudy can’t understand the business side of him. eventually Pete and Peggy will find their son and will head up the agency or another one in the future. Pete and peggy will have a joint project that brings them much closer especially as his marriage to Trudy goes sour. They will both long for their son. Sal will be back for sure and there will be some historical perspective here with his character and Joyce.

my 2¢… Where to begin, I too think Greg will eat it in nam. Roger loves his Joanie, always has, he will support Joan and the baby, secretly. Peggy and Don become closer, and we will be entering a big time in the history of our country as the woman’s movement enters the show… I hope good thing’s are in store for Pete, his character has really developed over the four seasons. I lean towards the thinking that Don may move to the left coast and open shop, but i don’t know, hard to call that one. Burt comes back. Fayes out, but I think Jew girl will be back, school teacher is out. Sals gone, and what’s to become of poor Betty and the children… Sally’s gonna do drugs I just know it!, Looking forward to season 5. Awesome show. and will someone get me a drink!